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I saw you did an update and wanted to try this joint again.

Gamepad controls didn't work very well for me. It felt like the steering was way too fast. So I tried mouse controls and I could control the wheel better but I still just couldn't control the car. Maybe it's because having only keyboard presses to control throttle and brake is too hard for me. Having pedals or gamepad triggers makes me feel like I can balance the car.

The upshift button didn't work on gamepad.

I really like that you added brake bias. But it crashed when I selected a value of 0.5. A value of 1.0 worked and made the car much better to drive.

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oh, crap, I fuc*d up the gpad mappings again... the bumper mappings for  shifting were gone.

damn, I  was hopeful that the new assist would  make it easier to handle. so,  just to be sure, did you select gpad mode in the steering method in the Controls menu?  I suspect you could be using the keyboard assist but with the gpad input(pressing the stick was  also  not setting the enum correctly). what did you mean when you said that the steering was too fast? the wheel  response itself or the vehicle  response? there  is a linearity option that should help if it feels too responsive, you can lower it a bit. The triggers for accelerator and brake were working,  right?  the orange and green bar on the GUI should show you the inputs.

I could  not reproduce the crash when changing the brake options,

I remember that last time you told me the brakes were  too weak. you can disable the ABS by setting both to 0.0,  then if slamming brakes still feels too weak, that means my tires dont have enough grip.

did you change the `slippy tiers` setting? don`t change that, somewhere  along the way I broke the  `normal` tires,  so keep it at default, which is `on`

thank you very much for trying it before DD, I really need to get myself a f*ken gpad

Just tried again with the new update, some stuff feels better but the steering wheel movement is still way too fast.


so,  just to be sure, did you select gpad mode in the steering method in the Controls menu?

Yup did that.

what did you mean when you said that the steering was too fast? the wheel  response itself or the vehicle  response?

The steering wheel itself. I drive in 1st person and I can see the wheel moving much much faster than I want it to.

there  is a linearity option that should help if it feels too responsive, you can lower it a bit.

Doesn't seem to have any effect.

The triggers for accelerator and brake were working,  right?  the orange and green bar on the GUI should show you the inputs.

They're working but I'm noticing there's a big deadzone on the brakes I can't get rid of even when I set the brake deadzone to 0.0. I did some testing to see if I could hold the brakes at 50% or any value between 0% and 100% and it was nearly impossible. I could sort of get some progressive input on the brake but it jumped from 0 to 100 so fast and suddenly. That's probably the cause of a lot of my braking problems.

I could  not reproduce the crash when changing the brake options,

I get the crash if I launch a rally, go back to main menu, and then set the brake values again. (Maybe only sometimes)

I remember that last time you told me the brakes were  too weak. you can disable the ABS by setting both to 0.0,  then if slamming brakes still feels too weak, that means my tires dont have enough grip.

Might be better but I'll be able to truly evaluate when I can consistently hold a desired brake amount to threshold brake.

did you change the `slippy tiers` setting? don`t change that, somewhere  along the way I broke the  `normal` tires,  so keep it at default, which is `on`

I never touched it. I thought the default was off before the last update, but now I see it's "flicky" tires and it's defaulted to on.

>They're working but I'm noticing there's a big deadzone on the brakes I can't get rid of even when I set the brake deadzone to 0.0. I did some testing to see if I could hold the brakes at 50% or any value between 0% and 100% and it was nearly impossible. I could sort of get some progressive input on the brake but it jumped from 0 to 100 so fast and suddenly.

this is definitely a problem, accelerator and break inputs should be the raw values from the triggers.

I found a problem where setting the input method from the main menu was not working, and had to be set while playing a stage, so maybe that`s what happened to you...

either way, thanks again for trying it out.

how to you make the roads?

i used a refined version of this method mostly.

I fractured my shoulder and can't play this rn, but when the doc clears me to use my arm im looking forward to this, love driving sims

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hope you make a fast and full recovery. you should know that there is no steering wheel and pedals support and the physics are still quite WIP, but getting feedback from someone who likes the genre is definitely appreciated